Gravity is a particle that pushes!

Started By Dannel Roberts, Jun 10 2005 05:00 AM
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    #54 Astrojan

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    Posted 28 July 2005 - 09:38 PM

    Gravity. Is it really a pulling force? No. :)

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    Posted 29 October 2005 - 03:13 PM

    Why hasn't this thread been move to strange claims?:)

    I dont know why hasn't general relativity been move to strange claims? :)

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    Posted 08 April 2010 - 05:16 PM

    What do you thinks, what things builds up Universe ??? First of all matter ! (Matter means to me: barionic, normal matter, all kinds of radiations, photons, GRAVITONS, and all kinds of instable particles)

    But what else ???????????????????

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    Posted 09 April 2010 - 09:52 AM

    I say, First of all matter ! Dark matter is matter. Dark energy too.

    But what else (out of matter), what else builds up the Universe ????????????????????????????

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    Posted 09 April 2010 - 05:58 PM

    Show me this Dark Matter..

    Dark matter is simply molecular hydrogen, nothing curious, look here: ESA. Dark matter, anti matter are all matter, namely positron eg. a kind of matter naturally.

    turbulence in the fabric of space

    Oooops, fabric of space? What about the fabric of an even line ??? Perhaps fabric of an even plane ?? Its ridiculous, that is the problem. Space is a non existent, man-made idea has no fabric, no structure, its NO MATTER.

    In Universe ONLY matter exists, no else. Matter can interact with dark energy (matter), disturbing their homogeneity. That is the fabric, not for space.

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    Posted 10 April 2010 - 07:54 PM

    Dark matter, anti matter are all matter, namely positron eg. a kind of matter naturally.

    Dark matter is matter. Anti matter is another type of matter, but matter. For example positron a kind of matter, naturally. Antiproton is a kind of matter. Proton is a kind of matter. Graviton is a kind of matter.

    Where is the confusion ? Read carefully and forgive me for poor english.

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    Posted 11 April 2010 - 06:48 PM

    Thank you for your moderate sounds, but Im sorry to say, quarks are NOT matter !!! Quarks are hypothetical matter, its a big difference.

    And also with my apology, gluons are NOT matter ! Gluons are hypothetical matter also.. (Not virtual, but hypothetical). Like gravitons, because nobody can not demonstate graviton directly. Similarly to quarks and gluons !! Or even Higgs bozons..

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    Posted 12 April 2010 - 07:16 PM

    No. Quarks does not exists. DIS can just say that: We are able to say that the constituents appear to be point-like and so can be considered to be fundamental particles. Yes, let see torus model:

    proton builds up by a point-like half-graviton and a point-like electric charge (+) elemental particle,
    electron builds up by a point-like (another type) half-graviton and a point-like electric charge (-) elemental particle

    Thats 4 fundamental/elemental particles builds up all kind of matter, radiation and particles: two kind of gravitons and two kinds of electric charge particles.

    If you bombard a proton with electrons so you have alltogether 4 elemental particles (2 graviton and 2 charge) from what you investigate (wrongly) 3 of quarks of proton and the rest one the bombarding electron. So DIS may prove my torus model in place of quarks..


    Pyrotex, yes, you are certainly wrong. Matter are the 4 elemental/fundamental particle, not else.

    Photon contains all of 4, so photon is matter, see Photon model.

    Thanks forward if you dont bite down of my head...

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    Posted 13 April 2010 - 04:31 PM

    OK, thank you. (Holo)graviton energyparticle consists of two different fundamental particle, combined with each other with a double spiral trajectory. Two types of half-graviton (graviton A and B in photon model) fundamental particle constitute the holo-graviton ( = graviton)

    We DO have evidence for the Quark theory.

    No, I think you have measurments, but the investigation is wrong. DIS demonstrates point-like particles, not quarks !!!!

    Read my previous message carefully and let see what evidence do you have to support your quark theory?

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    Posted 14 April 2010 - 07:07 PM

    May I ask you standing your mouse on C2 for hidden explanation ! C2 is a label, an estimate, it means about 5 magnitude higher velocity than speed of light. In essence, graviton energy particles has much more speed than light photons.

    SLAC: ..the (DIS) results suggested that the proton was not an elementary (fundamental) particle but was made of smaller, point-like particles which could deflect the electron..

    This collisions does not decides whether a proton builds up quarks or graviton-charge fundamental particles, just to say: point-like particles, as graviton and charge particles are.

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    Posted 15 April 2010 - 08:47 PM

    Would you kind to try understand the hidden interpretation, and after that I may get your apology for this naive education..

    So once again, last time:
    1. Iv made a rough estimation about speed of gravitons:
    2. Velocity of gravitons are roughly 5 magnitudes higher than speed of light.
    3. I have bring in an abbreviation, a short label, that is c2.

    Comprehend ? Read carefully, educate fewer.. You are right with math, naturally, but Im use this labeling despite you are the umpteenth expert who comment that. Im glad if this is your biggest problem with pushing gravity. This labeling expressive enough to demonstrate much more speed than light (but not mathematically correct, you are right again, I know it clearly)

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    Posted 14 April 2010 - 08:41 PM

    Love, Space and Time are Real, but they do not Exist. Delicious, Im agree.

    Time and space are the (hu)man constructed ideas, physically does not exists, space and time does NOT arose with Big Bang nor anywhere else, WE had defined various mathematical space abstractions.

    In the Universe ONLY matter exists.. And if space not exist, matter cannot bend it..

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    Posted 16 April 2010 - 07:48 PM

    If you assume (just for convenience) that space "exists" and that gravity really does bend it, then the Equations of Motion for those tough problems become easy to solve.

    No.

    If you assume (just for convenience) that Dark energy (= DVAG) consists of gravitons (in other words, graviton exists) so DVAG gradient near masses really bend the route of light photons then the Equations of Motion for those tough problems become easy to solve.

    Space trivially not exists, graviton may exist bacause it is a kind of matter..

    Not the non existing space bended, but the possibly existing matter, the DVAG and his gradient will be the cause of gravity.

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    Posted 18 April 2010 - 06:30 PM

    Gravity does NOT escape from black hole :turtle:

    Its GO INSIDE !! Thats pushing gravity, caused by gravitons and gravitons absorbed onto the mass of black hole. The force vector directed inside. Smaller black holes may more or less transparent for gravitons, but there is a limit size and the bigger BH-s may totally shield DVAG gravitons (gravitons has one way ticket).

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